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Two weeks ago, we released two new products – deviant and art Mentions and new username symbols.  Gratefully, and as we'd hoped, many deviants are embracing these changes in exactly the ways we'd anticipated, and the ways we ourselves did over the past several months of testing.  While some deviants embraced the changes, it's fair to say that others have felt surprise, curiosity, and maybe even shock.  These feelings are totally normal, but for the large part, there's a hope present.  A positive outlook.  The first steps in a new era that makes the way for our goals in the future, and, at the same time, removes clutter and confusion that new deviants often experience.

As with any change, there are a handful of deviants that don't understand why we made the choices we did – how we came to the conclusion to change.  They're confused by the newness, scared that they don't recognize the site they love, and they urge us to "change it back."  We understand those worries and share the nostalgia for things past, but this decision was not made lightly.  

From Text to Graphics

The change from text-based symbols to graphical symbols was personally challenging for me for entirely sentimental reasons.  As it was for spyed, who reinstated his $ symbol, back from a temporary + symbol, a week before launch so he could enjoy it just a little longer.  That might sound a bit silly, but those were real feelings, and we completely sympathize with deviants who have had a hard time adjusting to the change.

Let's reminisce.  

In the early days, deviantART's community was obviously much smaller – so much so, that there became a need for the handful of paid staff to differentiate themselves from the active volunteers, who often went above and beyond for the good of the community.  This was for two reasons: one, the sheer level of dedication from the volunteers was so great we wanted to give them a distinction all their own, and two, for better or worse, confusion would abound in the community on the rare occasion a volunteer said something a paid member of staff would not have said.

We eventually implemented the $ symbol to indicate paid staff vs. those generally helping out, and the * and = symbols to denote those with Premium Memberships.  Lastly, the ~ symbol was used to indicate all deviants. The big irony here was we considered having no symbol at all for deviants that didn't fall into the other categories, not thinking too much about it.

There soon grew a need for even more distinctions.  Back in those days, the symbol for a Prints staff member was a % (which we thought was hilarious because resembled a paper rolling through a printer).  Gallery Moderators were given a ^ symbol because their role was to elevate conversation.  Chats, and later the Groups system, were denoted with the # symbol which referred to a "topic" back in the old Internet Relay Chat (IRC) days, and we wanted that to roll over to deviantART, where chats and groups also brought people together under a particular topic. Along those same lines, deviants with an @ symbol were our Chat admins, which also had roots in IRC, where the symbol meant the same thing.  As time progressed, it became necessary to acknowledge deviants who had been around for a long time in meaningful ways, so we began awarding Seniors with the ` symbol to applaud them for their significant contributions to deviantART.

In 2005, and again a few years later, we actually considered making the change from text-based symbols to graphical, but we just couldn't let it go. It was too much a part of our roots, and we weren't ready. But now, eight years later, it was overdue.

Keeping the Lights On

It's a fact that we very much need to thank our Premium Members for their contributions to deviantART.  It's not subjective; we are genuinely in a debt of gratitude to these deviants, and we're honored that we're able to give them extra features and recognitions in exchange for their gift of support.  We've said this before, but it bears repeating and there's no exaggeration.  Premium Memberships on deviantART keep the lights on for all of us. 

Some people might ask, "Well, what about the Prints Program? What about advertising?  DeviantART makes money there too."  The Prints Program is a tool that can be utilized by art appreciators all over the world that gives back to artists in a meaningful way, offering them exposure and high-quality craftsmanship you won't find at other websites.  We thank every person who takes part in it, and we're honored to help each of the artists the program supports.  And advertising does help contribute to keeping our lights on, our staff employed, and our servers running, but when the dot-com bubble burst or when the stock market tanked, there was no ad revenue.  In those times, the reason deviantART survived and so many other sites didn't (because their venture capital imploded) was that deviantART continued to have its vision supported by our deviants.

So, yes, we wanted to thank – and want to continue to thank – the deviants who made all that possible.  If you have a star symbol next to your username, you should be proud, because you're helping keep deviantART on track into the future.  Premium Memberships offer the single purest line of support we have to work with, and we couldn't be more grateful for the contributions of each and every Premium Member.  

(On the topic of the look of new symbols, at their base, they're really not so different from before.  zilla774, from our User Interface team, put together a fantastic journal about the project to redesign and replace username symbols.  I urge you to give it a read.)

Clarity and Gratitude

When we kicked off the process to redesign and replace our username symbols, the project only came about as a way to reduce confusion – it was brought up during examination of our onboarding process for new deviants.  As I said in the New Username Symbols launch article, a common question from new and old deviants alike was: "What do username symbols mean?" Over the years, as we’ve surveyed deviants, we’ve found that very few understand symbols.  It was a roadblock to understanding the full deviantART experience.  We don't want deviants to focus on symbols and meanings.  We want the focus to be about the art.  We aimed to reduce the clutter and static to getting new deviants up and running, adding art to the community, and inspiring others.

We were never trying to put people down with the removal of the ~ symbol for non-Premium deviants.  That's the truth.  

If you're a deviant who hasn't yet achieved the status of the other symbols, you should be proud. You're a member of the greatest art community in the world! There are tons of tools available to all deviants for free, and we have so much more we're able to offer the entire community in development as we speak. Each and every one of you – symbol or not – are to thank for making the community what it is.  

To The Future

We hope even in the short time that has passed, deviants are starting to become accustomed to these symbols, and maybe even growing to prefer them to the old system. I will say we're continuing to make small tweaks here and there (including addressing concerns about internal and external linking) and playing with minute differences in size and appearance in various places on the site. And, as always, we listen to all feedback and suggestions on Journals like this one and anything submitted to hq, so you can keep your feedback coming, and your message will be received.  (Due to sheer volume, we can’t respond to every message, but I promise and assure that everything is read.)

Thank you for continuing on this journey with us. As I mentioned, these new symbols are paving the way to even more amazing things deviantART can do in the future, and we couldn't be happier to share it with all of you.


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Kary-Kary Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
JayMaverick Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I love this site 8Dx
Sugoi-Princess Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2014
I don't like the new symbol because its too big..
maybe if you did something where its smaller and it goes in front of my username it would be nicer. am I right?
Tesvp Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014   Digital Artist
I wish that we were able to change our names due to the symbol removals, though. My name used to be Darkness&Light, now its darknessamplight.
MjaxMajoran Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Just saying, a symbol for new users or veteran users without premium would be nice... I miss the ~
ElliotxClaris Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
We were never trying to put people down with the removal of the ~ symbol for non-Premium deviants.  That's the truth. 

yemto Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Please add a system where it's possible to filter out content via the search tags. I suffers from Hemophobia, which is a fear of blood. But I'm totally fine with nudity and bad language. So I don't want just to turn off the mature content altogether. You all on deviant art should have a look at it.…
Wildbluesun Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2013
I much appreciate the new symbols - even though I've been here for years I never properly understood the text ones. Being able to hover over the graphical symbols and get an explanation really helps.
Naeomi Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013
I liked it when the symbols were less intrusive. 
CaffeinatedZombie Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
The only thing I can think of (personally, the symbols are fine to me, I really don't care) is that the offsite little icons that pop up next to urls that aren't on is visually kind of annoying. Is there some way to fix this overall? 
Shadow-Pikachu6 Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2013  Student Digital Artist
here's an idea, why complain about people having an opinion about the symbols? everyone has a right to pretty much say what they feel about how the symbols are. And I  see that there wasn't any kind of response to the feedback on the symbols on the weekly site update. If you all really stand by the decision, then that's fine, but don't just say, "this is how it is now, get use to it, we don't care what you think or who you are" because that's not how the site should work >:C
Gwendolyn12 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
you're being redundant. If they're saying that they stand by the decision that automatically means they'll have to pull off a "get over it" attitude. And I think $Heidi was extremely polite in this journal and she didn't say any of those things at any moment there, I can't see how you or anyone else could take this in an offensive way. I think you're seeing too much over the border here.
Shadow-Pikachu6 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I'm not taking offense to it because of that, but a lot of things we complain to the admins about, it seems like we're ignored most of the time. I had someone I know on deviantART who couldn't get logged back into her account because the system thought she was a spambbot, and the staff just acted like robots when she tried to contact them for hell instead of actually looking into the problem a bit more and trying to help out. It just seems like whenever someone complains or disagree's with something on the site, the admins get ticked off or upset just for people expressing they're opinions *breaths* I don't take offense to this journal in particular, but there was someone who made a journal and posted it in a bunch of groups and stuff, and all I saw were senor members and staff members calling her out and saying that she should have deleted it. I simply ask, why?? what's wrong with having a second opinion on things.  And it's not just this, there are a bunch of other examples, like some things deemed gay get flagged for inappropriate content, but other full blown sexual things on the site go undetected by the dA staff for months or years. 

As for the symbols, I admit, I actually kind of like them and all, sure, it's a bit harder to copy and paste things to documents now or copy a bunch of deviants names at once and edit things in MS word, but it's something I can live with for now. I just don't think people should be called out or asked to take down journals and things that have petitions ABOUT the symbols and why they disagree with them. 
Gwendolyn12 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
As far as I know you are only blocked for an hour or two from commenting if the system thinks you are spamming. I never heard of someone being blocked from logging in because of that. I don't know the details on your friend's case though but if I were here I'd keep mailing the admins with proof and such and they'll eventually get her back. :shrug: 

Which journal is that one? You can send me through note if you don't want to post it in a public place like this. I don't take sides or opinions of I don't see the whole picture. Sorry, no offense but I don't like taking second's or third's word for anything. 

I think it's too easy to judge someone if you're not on their skin. It can be incredibly time-consuming to deal with all those things, hence why I'm not surprised sometimes the staff overlook things or take wrong decisions. I'm a volunteer, and I still take hours to simply go through DD suggestions and reply them, set DD's and keep going on with projects and such. I can't imagine how much time the admins take to deal with what they have to deal, which are definitely harder and more-time consuming activities than me (ie I just decide whether to feature a DD or not, they have to solve people's problems all the time). Obviously it's their job but as amazing as that sounds, they're human and they make mistakes. But unlike in many sites, on dA you have direct acess to the whole staff and if something happens you just have to go and try to contact them in some way and they'll hear you. There is no excuse to be so whinny when you can contact admins so directly.

Once again, send me the journal so I can discuss about it with you.
Shadow-Pikachu6 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013  Student Digital Artist
The journal is gone now, it was deleted by the person whom wrote it. 

And she actually did; and the admins STILL never got back to her about what was going on with her login. she had to use a proxy ip address to even get back on the site, and that's still dangerous to hackers and such. All they did was basically send her the link to change her password, but it wouldn't let her. every time she tried explaining her situation, all the Admins did was resend the password link which didn't help things at all. I can understand if you try contacting them two or three times, but 6 or seven times in two weeks without a good response is kinda pushing it with the admins. I know it can be time consuming, (and I am in a situation now where the deviantart system billed me on the wrong day for my PM, which caused my account to be overdrawn and shut down and they still refused to contact the bank or issue me a refund) but the way they want the site to work is as a business; and if the staff want it to work like that or wants us to spend money on the site, then there should be better customer service for people who purchase stuff for the account, of for people who get locked out of accounts. 
iDJPanda Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Student General Artist
I know this is a pretty old comment but getting locked out of your account is something dA cannot fix. It's their IP that is blocking them, da has nothing to do with it.
cei- Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013  Professional Photographer
# was also used, for a short while, for those of us in the old 'art groups', which didn't last very long and were eventually replaced by the current groups system. This was prior to chat and all that, and it was for individual users rather than the groups (because group pages didn't exist!).

I'm not sold on the new icons, to be honest. I'm finding it hard to interpret them as easily as the old symbols - perhaps it is simply the change from being in front of the name, or simply a few of the icons being too complex (the seniors one is the one I find the hardest). However, I'm certainly not arguing against change for the sake of it, and can appreciate the reasons it was done - the old symbols did have a lot of baggage.
Rosary0fSighs Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013
:star: I think the update has a number of positives. Particularly the hover, which will be beneficial for new users, and some of the newer symbols (like the volunteer heart, which really goes well with the nature of what volunteers do for the community. But I'm of the opinion that many other deviants have voiced: I find the position of the symbols at the end of the usernames extremely distracting. It's clunky and has no flow. Your eyes are immediately drawn to them, due to their size, differing shape and darkness compared with the light background, and due to the differing lengths of usernames. There's no coherency. It makes the site messy aesthetically detracts. 

:star: I also second the opinion about the lack of a symbol for non-premium/regular members. I feel that this is not in keeping with the community spirit of DeviantArt. DeviantArt prides itself on its community spirit. The art and sense of community is what attracts members to this site, and above and beyond that, the sense of community is what keeps members loyal to this site. The symbol being taken from regular members has led very much to a feeling of being devalued. I've already seen a number of members leave over this - not because of something as simple as a symbol change (and it really shouldn't be minimised to that), but because they felt that the DeviantArt staff was so out of touch with the community that they had overlooked a significant portion of the DeviantArt community - the regular members - enough not to give enough weight to how stripping them of a symbol might communicate a lack of consideration. 
A number of deviants have suggested a simple open circle for regular members. I think that staff should take reinstating regular members with a symbol into consideration.

While I understand that with every new site change comes the initial uproar/adjustment period, I do think the positioning of the symbols does detract and is distracting. And I think the lack of a symbol for regular uses detracts from the unifying community spirit that I have always been proud of in DeviantArt, and I think that is one of concern, and one that staff should be concerned about; that this is very much how this change has been perceived.   

On the whole, I think the changes can be positive. But I on these two points, I find them a step back from the former symbols.   
Janinna Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You know, at first, I hated the change. I wanted it to go back, because, although I didn't really understand what all the symbols meant, in a way that helped me view people as individuals, rather than one person being a snob with premium membership and another being a perverted volunteer. (I'm not saying that that has occured, I was just giving examples of what it might be...) The lack of understanding actually helped to keep judgement on the PERSON, not the placement, for me... but, I've adjusted now, and I actually think that if it's not changing, that those are some really good points. Actually, because of the 'distracting' aspect, if you left the symbols the same, but put them at the start, it could technically actually draw attention to the username! Plus, I agree with the regular thing, and although I didn't really know much about the members leaving and I lack awareness of the 'community together-ness', I think that it's a very good point. So, since I'm starting to feel like I'm talking too much, I'll shut up now.
CARNIV0RE Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013
As mentioned before on some other site update journal; I'm sure many people will soon learn to accept the new change. I'm honestly neutral on the whole subject of the symbols. Even when I first joined dA I was confused on what they meant, but I gradually learned them all, just as new deviants will learn the new symbols, likewise with the oldies'. :P

I did read that useful & wonderfully written journal on the behind the scenes progress of the new symbols and why we couldn't have the symbol at the start of a username... I still think it'd look a bit better but oh well.

My only concern with the symbol(s) is the 'Till Hell Freezes Over' one... I mean, how does that one work? Do you buy the 7 year PM and you get the symbol but do you lose it after the 7 years runs out OR could you still buy more PM's WHILST having that 7 year PM and retain the fire-looking symbol even after the purchase of the 7 year one runs out but you still have purchased maybe 2 years of PM? :hmm: I hope that makes sense... ._.
Creativeness Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013   General Artist
''When we kicked off the process to redesign and replace our username symbols, the project only came about as a way to reduce confusion''..
No, don't believe you. Your project was probably secretly called ''how to make people feel special, by excluding others''.
The only REAL difference with the names is the EXCLUSION of all members having a sign, a symbol.
It would have been so easy to make this change for ALL of us.
Give all the members a pale dA sign after their name, and only if you become premium does it change to a dark visible STAR, and all other variants of signs you have come up with, WITH THE EXCLUSION OF PLAIN MEMBERS FROM HAVING ANYTHING AFTER THEIR NAME.
'Screaming' because you -dA- do not acknowledge this fact of exclusion.
Testsubject276 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Can us blank members have our little squiggle back? i feel so plain...
Revils123 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This does show that you didn't forget about non members, but i still think we should get some kind of symbol instead of nothing. Because we are part of the community too. Like perhaps a outline of a heart since volunteers have a filled in one. All we asked was that we got a symbol too, I mean, I read the praise for the paying members and then the part for non members seems lacking. As if you just put it in there to say we know your here. We just don't want to be known that we're here, because with everyone else with a symbol, most of us are still feeling left out.

just one small symbol to join the fun, that's all we ask, is that too much?
zeruch Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Professional General Artist
...that said, if you can ever make my own symbol a black bolt of lightning (to exemplify my historic place as the Lewis Black of ex-volunteers) that'd be awesome:


(shut up Fiona, its damn funny...yes, I know you'll read this)
zeruch Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Professional General Artist
As someone whose held various username symbols, I'm fine with the changes. 
Rhymeable Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Student General Artist
I may not be a premium member now, but I have been in the past (Mine just ran out in September).
In my time on DA I have bought 2 for myself and 3 for other people.

So now it just feels like I'm being punished for not renewing my membership (Something I was planning to do).

I don't think I will now.


Maybe if you want to acknowledge people who "keep the lights on", you should consider those who have done it in the past and maybe just for a moment can't pay for a premium membership.

(On a side note: I bought those freaking brushes for DA Muro, then you put them out for free and give me a badge. :stare: )
Gwendolyn12 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
I bought them too.:lol:
Ilionej Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Student General Artist
And again, people fuss too much about a tiny change to the site. Of course it can be frustrating for non-subscribers to "lose" an unimport symbol people new to the page needed ages to figure out the meaning of, but actually, instead of being glad that now everyone can see easily what the symbols mean, they freak out because they supposedly have "no meaning in the community anymore".

Generally I'd like to point out that I don't own that star to my right because I've been "stupid enough to pay the page for nothing"(because there are of course features many don't need but others that are anadvantage, e.g. no ads) but because the first membership was a present and the second and third were hard owned by participating in contests/giveaways, Llamatrading as well as waiting for people to donate every once in a while and see whether I'd make it until it expires. I myself don't have any money I could gladly spend on any online service, nor have a bank account to even do it!

So, the features the premium membership enabled me to have, aren't bad, and I thank the community for making it possible for me to make use of them, but for sure I would find my ways without a subscription.
In my curiosity I have copied down all my pageview stats and visually re-arranged and enhanced them, and yes, there was an increase of my "popularity" ever since I was subscribed, but thinking about it now, it was also the time I began to involve more with the community. I submitted art I put more work in, engaged in conversations, featured people(which I did before as well, only with links instead of thumbs) and gave advices to the best I could.
In short, I'm not more popular due to my premium membership.
That symbol doesn't make me famous or more recognised. If I stand back for a while, traffic on my page still dies down and I only get watchers/faves/comments because I expose my work(like submitting to groups or using free feature offers).

To all those out there who complain about losing their symbol - rather spend your energy on your art than raging it out. The staff has noticed your concern, and now, if it still bothers you, wait for their decision. A website, and especially as big and connected as DeviantArt is, is not a magnet board where you replace magnets you don't like. It needs time to work it all out and fix issues. After all, even what I wrote here is nothing but energy asembled in a binary code. If you don't get what I mean, take the lamp on your desk, turn it on and off and wait for it to form a username symbol, for example. It won't. You'll have to add more lamps in different lights and then move far away to see it. That is technology. A puzzle, a mosaic. Tiny parts asembled to a big picture, which is just as big as your screen - and the message works internationally. Coding a website is complicated. It took decades for people to be able to post comments in a fancy looking box.
Therefore be patient please. We all are just human. Some more stubborn than others, but in the end we all need to make compromises. Consider what's best for your own nerves/health.
Lactopi Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very nicely worded! ^_^
Ilionej Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Student General Artist
Thank you.
nine-girls-red Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Whole thing sounded like a cop out. You didn't even try to really apologize, just covering your own ass the entire time.
michaelaforbus Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013  Student Photographer
What do they have to apologize for? 
SaimGraphics Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
At least "needs premium membership" to be eliminated!
LuckyKoneko Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
can you please make a symbol for the normal members? and put the symbols in front of the usernames, where they used to be?
Zue Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I have a small request to make... Why not put the symbols (if any) in front of the username? Or in the case of non-subscribers, a space... because I was browsing older journals, and the username texts becomes like this when using the 'dev' tag:

*Note: just using random plz accounts because I don't want to bother real acct owners via the mentions to prove a point.
Three absolutely different people's names become combined into one line, and it's not pretty... There used to be a ~ symbol before their names previously to separate them, but now, nothing?
Bansini Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is more of an actual problem. Should be remedied.

ShutUpSprinkles Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Professional Filmographer
The symbols still look childish and dumb. :dummy:
Kujinn Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I also think that we should remove where it says Needs Premium Membership to just Member, it makes me look like I;m not part of dA or something.
VonHollde Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
1: $Heidi Quick reminder we are not childrens. 

 I am not scared, nor confused.  I AM actually happy without any symbol but maybe because I don't really feel part of this community anymore, with people like you saying "oh there is some people that are scared and confused :_C but only a few of them" Really? Can you just say "yes you don't like them yes we don't care"

Not liking something doesn't mean we don't understand.

2: If I had a star next to my username I'll actually be ashamed. Really.

Aside from a childish star your premium membership offers nothing. I paid it because i liked the site, you feel part of it, you feel like you opinion was heard. The custom boxes used to be nice, the stamps used to be nice, if you are a teenager and you like to fill your profile with loads of glittering boxes good for you, but aside from a unneeded critique widget there's nothing to offer an aspiring or professional artist.

Come on, no respectable professional artist will ever use a commission widget that encourages underpayment.

Using ad block removes all the adds, I really can't tell the difference now between a premium and a regular member, and I've been premium member long time. 

3: This site is alienating old members. And looks way more cluttered

4: I am starting to become accustomed to these changes really, if tomorrow I woke up and the site is pink and yellow i would not care less, we know what to do, if you don't like the site don't use it, and that what people will do. Complaining in this site means nothing because even when every single deviant says "no" we will be "just and handful of people" for you

thetaoofchaos Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013   Writer
Thanks for offering additional reasoning and historical perspective on this change. Despite the fact that I didn't particularly care for some aspects of the symbol changes, I remain a huge supporter of deviantArt.  And I am proud of the fact that I have been a premium subscriber for most of the 6+ years that I've been a member.  Why proud?  When you said what you said about how premium members help keep the lights on here, I'm reminded of the real reason why I have continued to renew my membership year after year.  It's not because of the fancy features, though I do enjoy them.  It most certainly was never for status. It's because I can afford it, and because I love this site and this community and I want it to continue.  For whatever it's worth, I would not be the artist I am today without the artists and art appreciators that make up this community.  

Which brings me to a very important point that I have wanted to make ever since this change was enacted, and there was consternation from many deviants about how unworthy this change may have made some members feel: If not for the active presence of ALL the members, not the least of which are the non-subscribing members, then I wouldn't log on here.  So, if you're looking for a reason why at least one of your premium members keeps re-upping and financially supporting this site, please remember that it's the people and their art and their interest in art.  Nothing else.

PS - if you renamed the 7-year premium subscriber status to something other than the Hell Freezer one, I'd buy it.
SingingFlames Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
GrappleMace Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013
Uh, hey, now that we have to edit journals with the oh-so-shit writer, how am I supposed to edit the emoticon/mood/eating/drinking/etc stuff at the bottom? There's no option for it, and no option to "re-show this to my watchers, this is important".
Ilionej Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Student General Artist
Like before, there is a drop-down menu when you click on "More options" between the jounal and the preview/submit buttons, as well as the box to chose whether to notify the watchers or not below.

If you can't find/see those, please send me a screenshot and we'll work that out together.
GrappleMace Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013
It wasn't there yesterday, I just tried editing today and it's back again, but thank you. c:
Ilionej Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013  Student General Artist
Okay. Maybe just a glitch then. :)
ActsofArt Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Why thank you HQ for that condescending public note that shows you value class over substance. Hundreds of deviants daily give out their time and money to support and better this community whether they are premium or not. They donate points to all sorts of causes volunteer on and off the cite to support something they believe in whether that be administrating a group, or supporting fellow deviants. and these deviants have the gall to think that they should have a say in what their own username looks like.
But no, only premium members are important, perhaps, perhaps I say they "keep the lights on" but this cite would be nothing were it not for the members who put their hearts and souls into the community of deviantart.
I am not saying I am such a person, I am saying that I have witnessed the people who slave over this cite with no expectations of a return and you are basically turning around and saying their work means nothing because they don't pay.
ValkyrieReginleif Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
2 things...

1) its Site not Cite, as in Website. the S button is even closer to the other letters than the C.

2) chill out a bit, your reading into something that doesn't exist, the staff are only human and as such wont know the PERFECT way to thank everyone for being a deviant, its obvious the site wouldn't be what it is now without both normal and premium members alike. that is to say, there is nothing in that passage of text to even remotely suggest that they are looking down on even disregarding the value of the general community, if they were then there wouldn't be awards for deviousness and featured works etc etc.

i can understand you feel like you lost something that you felt was "rightfully yours to have" however just remember that the symbol for normal members meant nothing in the first place and wasn't worth anything, all that happened was the inevitable removal of pointless content. now if it were something major like free members losing the ability to set a personal avatar i would be supporting you in your complaint.

but really think about it, your raging in a comment to an announcement. do you honestly think that is going to get you anything to make it worth the time and effort?

surely i'm correct in thinking you joined deviantart to share and display your work or collect links to community work that you enjoy and want to let the deviant's aware of your support. not to complain and gripe over every small change that occurs, that doesn't really effect the quality or quantity of time spent in the community by yourself and other members.

Cuiusvis hominis est errare, nullius nisi insipientis in errore perseverare.
ActsofArt Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
2 things back at you,

First off it was one spelling error, chill out a little.

I read the entire passage and I was responding to the tone and overall message. By going out of their way to thank premium members they are basically saying that other members are less important. Deviousness awards are nice and so are features, but my point was they could've mentioned the community efforts more rather than thanking a single group and thus elevating them above others.

Also, I am not a child, I do not feel like I "lost something" that is the same condescension that was present in the message above. I did not realize my comment could be construed as "raging" I pointed out some things I found somewhat disturbing in hopes that the writer might see the error of their ways.  Things that were pointed out by others before me and I wanted to show my agreement with them.

My only real opinion on the new symbols was their large tacky appearance. I'm actually glad to be rid of the star that decorated my name a few days ago. And that's a complaint many have issued since the new launching.

hmmm perhaps I should have focused more on the insults towards those who disagree with the change or want it to be improved, but I felt that had probably been remarked on quite a bit already.
dood1e Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013
They could be smaller. They seem a bit childish.

I miss my ~ ..
iLantiis Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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